i was cleaning my bookshelf earlier this week and got rid of all the wts magazines.
as for the books i haven't decided yet.
what about you?.
In a word, no.
All I had was disposed of by means of a box of matches, and several litres of kerosene.
In some ways, rather regrettable, as I no longer have anything available for research purposes. But I tell you what, at the time the act of torching the lot was therapeutic!
Bill.
i was walking through a busy part of london this morning at 8am, the mainstreets were full of commuters and workers on their way to begin their day.
of course out in full force were the cheaply dressed jw young pioneers.
all sporting battered cases and a wodge of mags in hand.
"JWs who are reluctant to witness"
From what I have noticed of late, thay would be almost all of them!
Bill.
good or bad?
how did/has the wtbts affected your social skills, social development, and/or how you interact with other people?
i have many questions about different social skills that i will ask either after other people post to this thread or to keep this thread active.
I would have described myself as being "socially inhibited" as a result of WTBS indoctrination.
The only contact with members of the public was in the "service" - which meant either :
(a) rows and rows of houses in which nobody was at home / nobody appeared to be home.
(b) and those who were home - or would at least answer their doors - nearly always resented you being there.
Not much scope for social development there!
As for the kingdom hall, it was hardly the place for socialising (none of the ones I attended, anyway).
Bill.
PS: I once thought that the Theocratic Ministry School did help develop ones speaking skills - until I found out what a real course in public speaking was like!
about two weeks ago he was arested in bc, about 35 years too late thanks to wts cover-up.. he had a baby with my ex-husband's sister - my kids have a cousin who is also their aunt.
this was all covered up by moving from ontario to bc back in the early 1980s, and it all being hidden by the wts; even allowing this guy to serve as an elder after the fact...when i got married to my ex, his father was an elder, and the baby of the incest was 15. .
today and from now on, hopefully things will unravell for the wts in canada, as he sits in jail in ontario (where the crimes were committed)charged on 24 counts of sexual abuse.. i hope there is a lot of embarrassment going on in that congregation in ladner, bc when all this originally came to light about 28 years ago, the congregation that let this man become an elder...because, my own parents seem to be in "cover-my-ass" mode when it comes to talking about this matter with me..
NOLAW,
If I was given to sarcasm, I would most likely begin by saying "Good on ya, old son! The rights of the bad b#%!&*d always come ahead of those of those of innocent children."
However, sarcasm has never been my scene - and I don't intend to begin now!
Instead, I will remind you that it is a sad fact that pedophiles are almost entirely incurable, and the only place where they are safe is in a prison cell. So what if the crimes he got caughtdoing (but only the ones he got caught doing)appened 35 years ago. Being a pedophile, do you reckon he stopped offending then - and wouldn't offend again, given the opportunity? Or is it only a crime if you get caught, perhaps? (You know, Commandment No.11 - "Thou shalt not get caught.")
No, it is much more than just suspicion ; going by the typical record of such low-lifes as him, it is almost a certainty. The public has the right to be protected from such predators as this creature.
Bill.
PS: Let you bleeding-heart liberals scream bloody blue murder if you must - in answer to your question, I couldl not be more serious!
i was driving home the other evening pondering the past couple of turbulant years for me and my family.
i reflected back on my appointment as a ministerial servant and my attitude, beliefs and thinking at the time.
i thought about the subsequent misery that being a servant brings once the the glow wears off and people stop "commending you on your fine spiritual progress.
TMS,
After seeing what you did, what else is there to say?
Bill.
about two weeks ago he was arested in bc, about 35 years too late thanks to wts cover-up.. he had a baby with my ex-husband's sister - my kids have a cousin who is also their aunt.
this was all covered up by moving from ontario to bc back in the early 1980s, and it all being hidden by the wts; even allowing this guy to serve as an elder after the fact...when i got married to my ex, his father was an elder, and the baby of the incest was 15. .
today and from now on, hopefully things will unravell for the wts in canada, as he sits in jail in ontario (where the crimes were committed)charged on 24 counts of sexual abuse.. i hope there is a lot of embarrassment going on in that congregation in ladner, bc when all this originally came to light about 28 years ago, the congregation that let this man become an elder...because, my own parents seem to be in "cover-my-ass" mode when it comes to talking about this matter with me..
NOLAW,
You surely cannot be serious!
What would you do, then:
- let this abomination roam free, so that he can go on preying defenseless children?
He is up on 24 charges - and these are only the ones they know about. How many other such crimes has he committed?. And more importantly, how many more would he commit if allowed to go free, as you are suggesting?
What sort of a s*&t country would take no action against such a hazard to the community? When he gets locked up, I hope that they throw the bloody key away!
Bill.
1960's the watchtower pictures showed jesus clean shaven and with short hair {watch 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?
....because he is shown that way in representations that are older than the traditional effeminate looking pictures..."}.
yearbook 2011 p.57 "a bearded man named eric showed up at a congregation in the united states {oh god a bearded man!!!
Just as an aside to this one:
- if p.117 of the yearbook does actually use the term "Papa Nu-Guinea", then the level of education amongst the JWs has indeed plumbed to new depths!
Ever since gaining independence in 1975, that country has been known as "Papua New Guinea." Previously, it was known as the Territory of Papua and New Guinea; and prior to 1945, it consisted of (i) Papua (which was Australian territory), and (ii) the Mandated Territory of New Guinea (a former German colony, Australian-administered after WWI, under a League of Nations Mandate).
But "Papa Nu-Guinea" - never!
Bill.
1960's the watchtower pictures showed jesus clean shaven and with short hair {watch 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?
....because he is shown that way in representations that are older than the traditional effeminate looking pictures..."}.
yearbook 2011 p.57 "a bearded man named eric showed up at a congregation in the united states {oh god a bearded man!!!
p.117 Papua New Guinea:
- Having lived there for long enough, I know for a fact that most Papua New Guinean men wear beards. This includes their previous (and long serving) Prime Minister, Michael Somare; as well as most of the country's top business and professional men.
Yet, true to form, the JWs enforce the no beards rule in that country, too.
Bill.
we all know how jw brag about their strong internal love.
all are treated equal no matter rank, color, money, status etc.
is this really true?
Class division - certainly!:
- Much of it having to do with that column, entitled "Hours" , in the Monthly Field Service Report Form.
Bill.
in he's nephews book i could not believe some of the things he mentions.
when his father died fred franz told his mother he could not go to the funeral because he was just too busy at bethel.
she spoke to rutherford who ordered him to go.
Jookbeard,
Maybe the best two things about the late F.W. Franz was his face!
Pistoff,
Regarding suitable names for this apology for a human being, I run out of unpleasant words with which to describe my feelings towards him.
Of the printable names that I have heard put forward , "Freddie the Fraud" is the best one I have heard yet!
Bill.
